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Old 23rd September 2008, 17:12
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Aha, acum stiu si de la ce vine B4 si B3.
Intrebarea mea, are ceva daca e B4 si eu am non-pd? Sau e doar faptul ca am platit un ulei mai scump pentru ceva ce nu era necesar?
Stai linistit, B4 nu are nici o treaba cu pompe duse sau fara pompe duse. B4 reprezinta calitatea foarte buna a uleiului. Uleiurile B3 sunt de o calitate mai slaba. Daca inainte ai avut full sintetic 5w, si nu-ti consuma si totul e ok, sa bagi in continuare full sintetic! Cat despre schimb, in cazul acestui ulei eu zic ca poti sa mergi 15 mii, Castrol este cel mai bun de pe piata romaneasca. Totusi daca insisti sa schimbi mai repede lasa-l pana la 13-14mii linistit! Bafta
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Orgonaskaroly,de unde le scoti?Motorul ala de cand a iesit din fabrica a avut 10w 40,nu 5w 40.Si daca ai fi mai atent,ai vedea ca B3 sau B4 corespunde unei norme de ulei(B3-pt 10w 40 si B4-5W 40)
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The API
The API classifications are different for petrol and diesel engines:
For petrol, listings start with 'S' (meaning Service category, but you can also think of it as Spark-plug ignition), followed by another code to denote standard. 'SM' is the current top grade, which recently replaced 'SL' and 'SH'. 'SH' will be found on most expensive oils, and almost all the new synthetics. It's basically an upgraded 'SG' oil which has been tested more sternly.
For diesel oils, the first letter is 'C' (meaning Commercial category, but you can also think of it as Compression ignition). 'CH' is the highest grade at the moment, (technically CH-4 for heavy-duty) but 'CF' is the most popular and is well adequate for passenger vehicle applications.
Note about Castrol oils: Castrol have recently upgraded all their oils and for some reason, Castrol diesels now use the 'S' rating, thus completely negating my little aid-memoir above. So the older CC,CD,CE and CF ratings no longer exist, but have been replaced by an 'SH' grade diesel oil. This link is a service bulletin from Castrol themselves, explaining the situation.
The CCMC/ACEA
The ACEA standards are prefixed with a 'G' for petrol engines and a 'D' or 'PD' for diesel. Coupled with this are numerous approvals by car manufacturers which many oil containers sport with pride. ACEA replaced CCMC in 1996 primarily to allow for greater read-across in test programs (eg. for viscosity, viscosity modifiers and base oil). The CCMC specifications were G (1 to 5) for gasoline, D (1 to 5) or heavy duty diesel and PD1 and PD2 for passenger car diesel. ACEA though have a slightly different nomenclature they can be summarised as A for petrol, B for passenger car diesel and E for heavy duty diesel. The ACEA grades may also be followed by the year of issue which will be either '96, '98 (current) but coming soon is 2000.
Full ACEA specs are:

A1 Fuel Economy Petrol
A2 Standard performance level
A3 High performance and / or extended drain
B1 Fuel Economy diesel
B2 Standard performance level
B3 High performance and / or extended drain
B4 For direct injection passenger car diesel engines
E1 Non-turbo charged light duty diesel
E2 Standard performance level
E3 High performance extended drain
E4 Higher performance and longer extended drain
E5 (1999) High performance / long drain plus American/API performances. - This is ACEAs first attempt at a global spec.
Typically, these markings will be found in a statement similar to: Meets the requirements of API SH/CD along the label somewhere. Also, you ought to be able to see the API Service Symbol somewhere on the packaging:
PS: Scrie cumva, ceva de pompe duse la B4? Este vorba de orice diesel cu injectie directa!
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Deaja nu mai vad rostul discutiei,de acum incepe cine stie mai multe cu argumente si contraargumente;atasez 2 poze cu tipul de motoare intre 95 si noiembrie 2000 si normele de ulei ce trebuie sa le indeplineasca.In ce ma priveste discutia s-a incheiat,colegul nostru poate sa faca ce vrea cu masina lui,a cerur niste informatii,i le-am oferit.Bafta.
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si eu zic ca e bine sa nu va mai certati
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Corect, doar am intrebat. N-as vrea sa va certati din cauza mea!
Am inteles acum: o sa bag lapte cu cacao!
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Corect, doar am intrebat. N-as vrea sa va certati din cauza mea!
Am inteles acum: o sa bag lapte cu cacao!
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salut tuturor! sunt nou intre detinatorii de audi....am si eu o intrebare pt cunoscatori: mi-a adus cineva din germania 2 bidoane de ulei CASTROL MAGNATEC...primul e un 5W 30 c3,si are trecut pe spate HC synthetyc,502 00,505 00,aAPI SM/CF,ACEA A3/B3/B4,C3
Celalalt este tot CASTROL MAGNATEC 5w 30 A1,pt motoare diesel sub specificatii Ford WSS-M2C9
Tipul zice ca dealerul i-a spus ca primul este strict pt pompe duse,ultima generatie...........al doilea se foloseste si la motoare pe benzina,are nu stiu ce particule aditivate,prostii din astea
Problema e ca nu stiu pe care din ele sa il folosesc la urmatorul schimb........................primul schimb l-am facut cu un CASTROL MAGNATEC 5W 30,507 04!!!
Poate stie cineva si ma poate ajuta cu un sfat....multumesc!
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